These are the fakes of the 1935 and 1937 and the 1953 National Jamboree back patch.   These fakes are identified on the website Nationalboyscoutjamboree.com

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When I started this research I believed that Lodge 137 was a Bates Fake. It turns out it isn’t a Bates fake but it is a fake, Since I did the comparisons here it is.

Tags from lettering to top border wrong. White over black embroidery on the back of real.

Fake the shape is wrong. Fake has a flat head, real is round. Fake-the W in the center of the birds chest is higher and the other W’s touch the bird. They don’t touch on the real issue. Real-the bird is fatter. Real-has tags into the border on the W & N. The lettering on the fake is crowded and closer to the border.

This is the cut edge 55 F1. It also has the more rounded bottom and a rounded head.

The original notice in The Trader, January 2976 announcement, but here it is in the third paragraph. Thanks Jeff Jones. The original notice in The Trader, January 1976. I had a hard time finding this, I was expecting a big banner. About Patch Design and Manufacturing. During the 1970’s most Scout patches were made on large “Swiss” style machines. The embroidery was driven by a “punch pattern”. Making the punch pattern was a time consuming, tedious job. Every stitch had to be programmed into the punch pattern.   Lodges would send a manufacturer a design, often an artist conception and the individual that developed the punch patterns would determine how the stitches were programmed. Background embroidery might be vertical or horizonal. Arrowheads might be elongated or shorter. This is how variations come about. A new loom of patches might be ordered from a different manufacturer and the other manufacturer would follow the basic design but the lettering might be different, the background embroidered horizionally while another was vertically, or detailing could be different etc. These differences in patches are called “loom variations” of the same pattern, but with noteable differences. It appears that great care was taken in designing the punch patterns for these Bates fakes. It is my belief that instead of designing from a drawing that punch patterns were developed from actual authentic patches and great care was taken to get all the details correct. This is unusual and very few manufacturers would spend the extra time and effort to make an exact duplicate.

This is the artwork that a patch manufacturer works from. Every stitch is programmed into a punch pattern, using the artwork as a guide. Misc. information is on the side. 450 pieces, details on the chipmunk and spelling.

Paul Myers Goshen, Indiana gimogash@comcast.net